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    • #1552
      Avatar photogricketts04
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        This May, I am speaking at the ALA Conference on Emerson and James. In my essay, I provide a quote from what I believe to be “Essays in Radical Empiricism.” I included the piece; however, I cannot find the actual text in “Essays” or any other Jamesian texts. Can anyone provide me with the actual resource?

        “The dualism of subject and object is not so fundamental… as the dualism of what is presented and what presents itself. Presentation is a basal category, and subject and object are but secondary terms derived from it.”

        Thank you!

        Gary Ricketts
        gricketts04@icloud.com

      • #1554
        Avatar photoGary Jaron
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          Gary,
          I apologize for the delay in answering.
          When I did a search using the online texts of James that we have links to on this site, I was not able to locate that quote you referred to in either the Essays in Radical Empiricism or in Some Problems of Philosophy, the Meaning of Truth, Pragmatism, Collected Essays and Reviews, Principles of Psychology vol 1 & 2, or the Will to Believe.

          It does sound like James, yet I cannot locate it either in any of the original reprinted texts of his work.

          Gary Jaron

        • #1557
          Avatar photogricketts04
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            Thank you! And how odd? I will more than likely have to swap the quote for a similar one… Perhaps “Does ‘Consciousness’ Exist?” will be a good starting place… Let me know if you have any other suggestions!

            I appreciate your research and response!

          • #1558
            Avatar photop.m.davis@liverpool.ac.uk
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              I don’t think ‘basal’ is a James-like word. Perhaps it is from a commentary on James
              You’re right to think of the passage from Does Consciousness Exist:

              The room thus again gets counted twice over. It plays two different rôles, being Gedanke and Gedachtes, the thought-of-an-object, and the object-thought-of, both in one; and all this without paradox or mystery, just as the same material thing may be both low and high, or small and great, or bad and good, because of its relations to opposite parts of an environing world.

              As ‘subjective’ we say that the experience represents; as ‘objective’ it is represented. What represents and what is represented is here numerically the same; but we must remember that no dualism of being represented and representing resides in the experience per se. In its pure state, or when isolated, there is no self-splitting of it into consciousness and what the consciousness is ‘of.’ Its subjectivity and objectivity are functional attributes solely, , realized only when the experience is ‘take,’ i.e., talked-of, twice, considered along with its two differing contexts respectively, by a new retrospective experience, of which that whole past complication now forms the fresh content. The instant field of the present is at all times what I call the ‘pure’ experience. It is only virtually or potentially either object or subject as yet.

            • #1559
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                Thank you for the response! Gary Jaron found the quote in Ralph Barton Perry’s preface to “Essays in Radical Empiricism” in which Perry quotes from James’s “The Meaning of Truth.”

              • #1560
                Avatar photop.m.davis@liverpool.ac.uk
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                  Could I trouble you for the Perry quotation and the quotation from Meaning of Truth within it, please? Really interesting: your paper will surely impress
                  Philip

                • #1561
                  Avatar photogricketts04
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                    I am sorry but I was rather impulsive to post. Gary Jaron referenced another quote in my essay! Because we are conversing via email, I was confused!

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